Chinese Domain Name Registration Scams

In the middle of December 2012 an individual in China calling himself simply “John” attempted to scare me into registering the .asia, .cn, .com.cn, .net.cn and .org.cn versions of my website’s address using a Chinese Domain Name Scam. The individual responsible is almost certainly one Pan Xiaohong of Shanghai, who failed to convince me to purchase a single thing from him.

Chinese Domain Name Scams

Too Long; Didn’t Read?

    1. It’s a scam
    2. Delete it
    3. There’s no need to register these domain names through your usual registrar
    4. If you ask your usual registrar they will probably use FUD (fear uncertainty and doubt) to encourage you to spend money with them as most registrars are not much better than these scammers

The Long Version…

Here’s an email I received before Christmas from info@ygnetworksit.com:

Dear Manager,

(If you are not the person who is in charge of this, please forward this to your CEO,Thanks)

This email is from China domain name registration center, which mainly deal with the domain name registration in China. We received an application from BaoYuan Ltd on December 17, 2012. They want to register ” squelchdesign ” as their internet keyword and China/Asia (CN/ASIA) domain names. But after checking it, we find this name conflicts with your company. In order to deal with this matter better, so we send you email and confirm whether this company is your distributor or business partner in China or not?

Best Regards

John
General Manager
Shanghai Office (Head Office)
3002, Nanhai Building, No. 854 Nandan Road,
Xuhui District, Shanghai 200070, China
Tel: +86 216191 8696
Mobile: +86 1870199 4951
Fax: +86 216191 8697
Web: www.ygnetworkit.com

An odd email; Lots of broken English and things that don’t entirely make sense if you know anything about my company, but then it could be from a legitimate source that simply hasn’t taken the time to find out more about the company. I figured it had to be suspect, but gave them the benefit of the doubt to see where this was heading:

Hello John,

I’m not 100% sure I am understanding your question fully. BaoYuan are in no way associated with Squelch Design, today is the first time I heard the name.

Yes there would be a conflict if they go ahead and register squelchdesign.cn; Squelch Design does not actively operate in China, but is happy to accept custom from all over the world. I believe registering a company in China with the same name would cause brand confusion and erosion and, given that I went to great lengths to find a name that was not already in use, and having invested a great deal of time and money into Search Engine Optimisation, registering a similarly named website would be very poor etiquette. As far as I can tell BaoYuan are in the chemical/packing materials industry, so it strikes me as odd that they would want to register “squelchdesign” as a domain.

Many thanks,
Matt Lowe

Three days later I got a response. Not from John, but from Lin JianFa – supposedly an employee of BaoYuan – yet using the address jianfa.lin@yahoo.cn:

Dear Sirs,

Our company has submitted the “squelchdesign ” as CN/Asia domain name and Internet Keyword, we are waiting for Mr. John’s approval. We think this name is very important for our products in Chinese and Asian market. Even though Mr. John advises us to change another name, we will persist in this name.

Best regards

Lin JianFa

Immediately I smelt a rat, the style of the speech was absolutely identical to John’s, as was the formatting and with similar incorrect usage of punctuation. I’ve seen this before when I baited a Nigerian 419 scammer a few years back. The fact that this employee of the company was using a Yahoo address was just plain wrong. So far they’d set the scene: They’d heavily implied someone was going to take my company name and start using it, creating brand confusion, but they’d not yet presented a way to get money out of me. So, I carried on playing along:

Lin,

I believe that if you persist in using the name squelchdesign.cn you will only confuse my customers and yours, making it more difficult for my customers to find my website. May I ask what services/business your company would be doing with the name?

Many thanks,
Matt Lowe

That was the last I heard from Lin. John, however, did send me more emails:

Dear Matt ,

Based on your company having no relationship with them, we have suggested they should choose another name to avoid this conflict but they insist on this name as CN/Asia domain names (.asia and .cn and .com.cn and .net.cn and .org.cn) and internet keyword on the internet. In our opinion, maybe they do the similar business as your company and register it to promote his company.
According to the domain name registration principle: The domain names and internet keyword which applied based on the international principle are opened to companies as well as individuals. Any companies or individuals have rights to register any domain name and internet keyword which are unregistered. Because your company haven’t registered this name as CN/ASIA domains and internet keyword on the internet, anyone can obtain them by registration. However, in order to avoid this conflict, the trademark or original name owner has priority to make this registration in our audit period. If your company is the original owner of this name and want to register these CN/ASIA domain names (.asia and .cn and .com.cn and .net.cn and .org.cn) and internet keyword to prevent anybody from using them, please inform us. We can send an application form and the price list to you and help you register these within dispute period.

Kind regards

John
General Manager
Shanghai Office (Head Office)
3002, Nanhai Building, No. 854 Nandan Road,
Xuhui District, Shanghai 200070, China
Tel: +86 216191 8696
Mobile: +86 1870199 4951
Fax: +86 216191 8697
Web: www.ygnetworkit.com

Note the good cop/bad cop thing that he has going on with Lin; He’s doing me a favour by telling me they want to encroach on my company’s name.

The guys over at TechRepublic received an incredibly similar email back in 2009. Over at HoaxSlayer other people have reported, pretty much word for word, the exact same emails I have shown here. Even Wikipedia has an article on this scam. But I carried on playing along, curious to see how much he wanted to fleece me for:

Hi John,

How long is the dispute period?

Many thanks,
Matt Lowe

 

Dear Matt ,

The checking time will be over soon, we have not received your reply about the domain name and internet keyword since our last communication. You must know domain name takes open registration, this is international domain name registration principle. So the company has right to register them. As a domain name registrar, we have no right to refuse their application. We aslo suggest this company should change another name but they stick to this name so if your company want to prevent anybody from using these domains, the only way is to register these CN/ASIA domains and internet keyword. In our checking time, your company has first priority to register them. Could you tell us whether your company want to make this application to prevent anybody from using them or not?

Best Regards

John

 

Hi John,

Thanks for the reply. How much would it cost?

Many thanks,
Matt Lowe

And now, the moment of truth:

Dear Matt:

Thanks for your reply. If you would like to protect by yourself and according to our checking progress,
we will send an application blank to you. After you fill in it, you need to send it back to us. When we
received you information we will overrule their application and register for you in one day. And the
registration fee for CN domain is 38.8 USD year, ASIA domain is 36.6 USD per year, internet keyword
is 148 USD per year. If you want to protect yourself, I am very glad to help you. Right now, the checking
is going to the end, please reply in two working days.

Have a nice day .

Best Regards

John

So back in his first email he suggested BaoYuan wanted to register squelchdesign.asia, squelchdesign.cn, squelchdesign.com.cn, squelchdesign.net.cn, squelchdesign.org.cn, and the internet keyword “squelchdesign”. That’s one .asia, four .cn domains, and one Internet keyword. That comes to a total of $339.80 USD or approximately £214. Update 2017: See below, it gets worse!

The moral of the story is if you get an email from China (or anywhere else for that matter) warning you that someone is trying to muscle in on your business’s name, be very careful. Very very careful indeed. Here’s the registration details for the scammer’s company:

pan xiaohong
lichenfang@zjedu.org
tel: 13661529704
fax: 02162961557
shanghaixingqunandanlu
shanghai,shanghai,CN
200010

I’m 99% sure that “John” is a fictitious character and that Pan Xiaohong is in fact the perpetrator. So maybe if you get an email from this John character, maybe try replying with “Hi Pan”, and see what happens? ;) Take care of your businesses guys.


Update 28/08/2013

The comments section below is getting pretty long as more and more people find this blog and send in the emails they received. As such I’m going to try and summarise the information in the comments below.

You might get emails from any of the following companies: YIGUAN, YIGUDNS, YIGUTEK, YGITECH or the domain names www.ygnetworkit.com, www.yiguannetwork.com, www.yigudns.com, www.yigutek.com, www.ygitech.com, www.cnygregistry.net, www.ygregistryltd.net, www.ygasia.org, www.ygcompany.org, pxisp.net or des-registry.org.
They might use one of the following names: John, Jim, Terry Tang, Peter Cheng, James Zhang, Simon Cheng, Gary Zhang, Mika Cao, Lan Du, Lex Ren, Jim Ying, Bill Cheng, Mark Wong or Abby Wang.
They might claim that the company attempting to register the domain is: BaoYuan Ltd, Weisheng company, Weisheng Holdings Ltd, Taisheng Limited, PengCheng Trading Co. Ltd, Huasheng Ltd, Huafeng Ltd or Kenpoco Ltd. Note that some, perhaps even all, of these companies are legitimate Asian companies and the scammers are simply using their names to try and give credibility to their claims.
You might be contacted by someone claiming to be from one of the companies above, usually using a Yahoo or Hotmail email address rather than a legitimate business address: Lin JianFa, Warren Chiou, Darren Chiou or Jiang Zhifa.

If you received an email with slightly different wording or from a different company then please feel free to post it in the comments section below so I can update the blog and we can all stay one step ahead of the scam.


Update 06/10/2017

After I posted this blog I never received any more of these scam emails, probably because my website was coming up in first place in Google for any searches related to “Chinese domain name scams”. I even tried replying on behalf of a few customers who’d received scam emails to see if I could further mess with the scammers, but I guess they did their homework because none of them would reply to me. Until the 19th of September that is, when “Charles Xu” contacted me.

(It’s very urgent, please transfer this email to your CEO. Thanks)

We are the domain registration and solution center in China. On Sep 18, 2017, we received an application from Jiatai Ltd requested “squelchdesign” as their internet keyword and China (CN) domain names (squelchdesign.cn, squelchdesign.com.cn, squelchdesign.net.cn, squelchdesign.org.cn). But after checking it, we find this name conflict with your company name or trademark. In order to deal with this matter better, it’s necessary to send email to you and confirm whether this company is your business partner in China?

How could I resist playing their game? It’s been 4 years since I was last contacted and asked to pay the ridiculous sum of £214 for domains I neither wanted nor needed. What would this scam look like in 2017?

Hi Charles,

We have no business dealings with Jiatai Ltd and any registration of a name featuring “squelchdesign” would be an infringement of our trading name.

Charles Good-Cop Xu had set the scene and had a bite. Now it was time for Gareth Bad-Cop Ren to do his part:

To whom it concerns,

We will register the China domain names “squelchdesign.cn” “squelchdesign.com.cn” “squelchdesign.net.cn” “squelchdesign.org.cn” and internet keyword “squelchdesign” and have submitted our application. We are waiting for Mr. Charles Xu’s approval and think these CN domains and internet keyword are very important for our business. Even though Mr. Charles Xu advised us to change another name, we will persist in this name.

Kind regards

Gareth Ren

Oh dear, that sounds terrible. I’d better play the worried webmaster part then:

Hello Gareth,

Registration of any domain name or Internet keywords containing “squelchdesign” would clearly water down our brand and would only cause confusion in the marketplace. We ask that you not make any such registration and instead create your own unique name.

Time once again for the good cop routine. Thank goodness Charles Xu was there to save the day.

Dear Matt Lowe,

We have already advised them to choose another name according to your company that have no relationship with them, but they insist on this name as China domain names (squelchdesign.cn, squelchdesign.com.cn, squelchdesign.net.cn, squelchdesign.org.cn) and internet keyword. In our opinion, maybe they do the similar business as your company then register it to promote his company.

As is known to all, domain name registration based on the international principle is opened to company and individual. Any company or individual have the right to register any domain name and internet keyword which are unregistered. Your company haven’t registered this name as China domains and internet keyword, so anyone is able to obtain them by registration. But in order to avoid this conflict, the trademark or original name owner have priority to register China domain name and internet keyword during our dispute period. If your company is the original owner of this name and want to register these China domain names (squelchdesign.cn, squelchdesign.com.cn, squelchdesign.net.cn, squelchdesign.org.cn) and internet keyword to prevent anybody from using them, please inform us. We can send you an application form with price list to help your company register these China domains and internet keyword during our dispute period.

And now I just need to play my final part to get to the end-game, finding out their exorbitant prices:

Hi Charles,

We are indeed the original name owner and cannot have anyone infringing on our name. Please send over the application form.

And what a nice chap, he sent me his price list.

So to register all of the names and keywords that “Charles” suggests would set us back USD $1,476 which is roughly equivalent to £1,124 for registrations that we in no way need. This scam is getting more vicious, the total amount they want to rip people off by has grown from £214 to £1,124 – nearly a thousand pounds in 4 short years…

Don’t fall prey to these scammers! Delete and forget their emails, don’t pay them a penny.


Update 13/10/2017

They’re busy at the moment, I’ve had another one! This time from “TOI IT Service Center”, China Registry (Head Office) || No. 8-8018, Peace Building, Jinghu District, Wuhu City, China. Tel: 0086 5538 366231 || Fax: 0086 5538 366231.

Dear Sir/Madam

About the “squelchdesign”, we have some thing to comfirm with you! We are an agency engaging in registering brand name and domain names, on October 11, 2017, we received an application named “Derlery Company” and they apply to register squelchdesign as their brand name and some top-level asian domain names. But we found the main body of domain names is same as yours. We are not sure about the relationship between you and them.

As the registrar, so we need to check with you whether your company has authorized that company to register these names. If you authorized this, we would finish the registration at once. If you did not authorize, please let us know within 7 workdays. After the deadline we will unconditionally finish the registration for “Derlery Company” Looking forward to your prompt reply.

(Please kindly foward this email to your CEO or appropriate person. Thanks a lot.)

Best Regards,

Owen Chen

Senior Adviser Manager

 

Hello Owen,

We have no dealings with Derlery Company and any attempt to register our trading name in China would have a considerable negative impact on our brand.

 

Dear Matt Lowe,

Thanks for your confirmation. As soon as receiving the application of “Derlery Company”, we checked and found “squelchdesign” is your company’s using name and brand. We are concerned that your brand name might be affected negatively by their applications, this is why we informed you. Following Network Brand and domain names are applied by “Derlery Company”:
Net Brand: squelchdesign
Domain Names:
“squelchdesign.cn
squelchdesign.com.cn
squelchdesign.net.cn
squelchdesign.org.cn
squelchdesign.cn.com
squelchdesign.asia
squelchdesign.in
squelchdesign.co.in
squelchdesign.hk
squelchdesign.com.hk
squelchdesign.tw
squelchdesign.com.tw
squelchdesign.中国

You know that the domain names registration is open in the world, “Derlery Company” also has the right to apply for the available domain names, but you have the preferential rights to register them. We also are not very clear about why the company wants to register these domain names, but according to our work experience, if they finish the registration, in internet, your customers must be confused and this registration will bring lots of competition to your company to impact your business soon.

At present, we haven’t passed their application, we need your opinion. If your company consider these names of importance to your company’s business and interest, I suggest your company to register these names first so as to avoid confusion or speculation. Of course, If you don’t want to protect your intellectual property rights, then you can give up these names so that we can finish registering for them as per our duty. Please give me your company’s decision as soon as possible in order to handle this issue better.

Have a nice day.
Best Regards,

Owen Chen
Senior Adviser Manager

 

Hi Owen,

Thanks for informing me, I wouldn’t want my customers being confused by this registration. How do I go about registering these domain names?

 

Dear Matt Lowe,

Thanks for your confirmation, Of course, I can assure you that the best way for you to protect your business is to register these domains under your name, because after you finish the registration, you will become the exclusive owner of them! We, as the China local registrar, if you need to register those domains, we can help you.
Following is the procedure, you can do follow these:
1.You fill in the Registration Contract it via email(scanned) or fax.
2.We will send the Invoice signed & stamped to you, In the meantime We will formally submit the application to register for you and put on records according to you signed Registration Contract.
3.You transfer the payment to us according to the Bank information on the Invoice within 5 workdays and fax the payment proof to us.
4.You will be awarded the certificates of Domains after 10 workdays.

Attached the Registration Contract, pls check. About the detailed price, pls refer to the contract.
If no question, please fill the contract and return to us ASAP, we will help you register these domain names as per the information which you will fill in the contract,thanks for your cooperation.

Have a nice day.
Best Regards,

Owen Chen
Senior Adviser Manager

 

And the moment of truth:

That works out at a minimum cost of €3,315 … or about £2,980.

Jan 2013: £214 requested
Sept 2017: £1,124 requested
Oct 2017: £2,980 requested

Ignore, delete, and keep your money in your bank where it belongs.

About Matt Lowe

Matt Lowe is a WordPress web designer / developer based in Newbury, Berkshire. After 8 years of doing the nine-to-five for other companies and watching them make the same mistakes over and over he set out in business on his own, forming Squelch Design to help businesses get online and make money.

1,287 comments on “Chinese Domain Name Registration Scams

  1. My scammer calls himself Abbott Li, and claims the company wanting my domain name is OYO Investment Company. Address details are: Abbott Li
    Tel:0086-551 634 911 93
    Fax:0086-551 634 911 92
    Address:No.358,Jiangnan Xinlicheng Garden,Tongcheng Road,Heifei China

    All rubbish, of course.

    • This just happened to me as well….thankfully I found this website. Here’s a copy of the emails I received:

      This email is from China domain name registration center, which mainly deal with the domain name registration in China. On Nov 23, 2017, we received an application from Jiahong Ltd requested “mlibusiness” as their internet keyword and China (CN) domain names (mlibusiness.cn, mlibusiness.com.cn, mlibusiness.net.cn, mlibusiness.org.cn). But after checking it, we find this name conflict with your company name or trademark. In order to deal with this matter better, it’s necessary to send email to you and confirm whether this company is your distributor in China?
       
      Best Regards,
      Steve Liu | Service & Operations Manager
      China Registry (Head Office) | 6012, Xingdi Building, No. 1698 Yishan Road, Shanghai 201103, China
      Tel: +86-02164193517 | Fax: +86-02161918697 | Mob: +86-13816428671
      Email: steve@chinaregistry.org.cn
      Web: www . chinaregistry . org . cn
       
      This email contains privileged and confidential information intended for the addressee only. If you are not the intended recipient, please destroy this email and inform the sender immediately. We appreciate you respecting the confidentiality of this information by not disclosing or using the information in this email.

      Here’s the email from the perspective party who’s interested in my company domain name:

      To whom it concerns,
      We will register the China domain names “mlibusiness.cn” “mlibusiness.com.cn” “mlibusiness.net.cn” “mlibusiness.org.cn” and internet keyword “mlibusiness” and have submitted our application. We are waiting for Mr. Steve Liu’s approval and think these CN domains and internet keyword are very important for our business. Even though Mr. Steve Liu advised us to change another name, we will persist in this name.
      Kind regards
      Gareth Ren

      Fwd: Re: mlibusiness CN domain and keyword

      And here’s last email I couldn’t attach price list with equals out to around $3,880.00 dollars:

      ———- Forwarded message ———-
      From: Steve Liu
      Date: 7 December 2017 at 00:25:36 -05:00
      Subject: Application Form for mlibusiness CN domain and keyword
      To: lynn.hazard@mlibusiness.com

      Dear Lynn Hazard,
       
      Attached please find this application form. You can find the price from this form. If your company want to register these CN domain names and internet keyword, please fill out this form and send it back with the copy of company’s business registration license within 5 working days.

       
      Best Regards,
      Steve Liu | Service & Operations Manager
      China Registry (Head Office) | 6012, Xingdi Building, No. 1698 Yishan Road, Shanghai 201103, China
      Tel: +86-02164193517 | Fax: +86-02161918697 | Mob: +86-13816428671
      Email: steve@chinaregistry.org.cn
      Web: www . chinaregistry . org . cn

       
      This email contains privileged and confidential information intended for the addressee only. If you are not the intended recipient, please destroy this email and inform the sender immediately. We appreciate you respecting the confidentiality of this information by not disclosing or using the information in this email

    • Thank you for posting all of this information. I received an email today from Robert Liu, Senior Manager. With the following address details:
      China Registrar Headquarters
      www . chinaregistrar . org
      8008, Tianan Building, No. 1399 Jinqiao Road,
      Shanghai 200120, China
      0086-21-6191-8696(Tel)
      0086-1377-4400-340( Mobi)
      0086-21-6191-8697(Fax)

      Needless to say I am not going to lose any sleep over deleting the email.

  2. Yup, I received the same thing today. I’m glad I found this website. The info was from:

    Thomas Liu | Service & Operations Manager
    China Registry (Head Office) | 6012, Xingdi Building, No. 1698 Yishan Road, Shanghai 201103, China
    Tel: +86-02164193517 | Fax: +86-02161918697 | Mob: +86-13816428671
    Email: thomas@chinaregistry.org.cn
    Web: www . chinaregistry . org . cn

  3. Appears that “Larry Liu” is still alive and kickin’ …

    (received 28 Nov 2017)

    (Please forward this to your CEO, because this is urgent. Thanks)
    This is a formal email. We are the Domain Registration Service company in China. Here I have something to confirm with you. On Nov 23, 2017, we received an application from Jiahong Ltd requested “princetoncoaches” as their internet keyword and China (CN) domain names (princetoncoaches.cn, princetoncoaches.com.cn, princetoncoaches.net.cn, princetoncoaches.org.cn). But after checking it, we find this name conflict with your company name or trademark. In order to deal with this matter better, it’s necessary to send email to you and confirm whether this company is your distributor in China?
    Best Regards,
    Daniel Liu | Service & Operations Manager
    China Registry (Head Office) | 6012, Xingdi Building, No. 1698 Yishan Road, Shanghai 201103, China
    Tel: +86-02164193517 | Fax: +86-02161918697 | Mob: +86-13816428671
    Email: daniel@chinaregistry.net.cn
    Web: www . chinaregistry . net . cn

    This email contains privileged and confidential information intended for the addressee only. If you are not the intended recipient, please destroy this email and inform the sender immediately. We appreciate you respecting the confidentiality of this information by not disclosing or using the information in this email.

    Played along with “nope, they don’t represent us …”

    received from garethjing@gmail.com 29 Nov 2017:

    To whom it concerns,
    We will register the China domain names “princetoncoaches.cn” “princetoncoaches.com.cn” “princetoncoaches.net.cn” “princetoncoaches.org.cn” and internet keyword “princetoncoaches” and have submitted our application. We are waiting for Mr. Daniel Liu’s approval and think these CN domains and internet keyword are very important for our business. Even though Mr. Daniel Liu advised us to change another name, we will persist in this name.
    Kind regards
    Gareth Jing

    These guys are a riot!

  4. I got 2 of these today! In one day! DIfferent senders, different companies, same format of email. Thanks for posting this article.

  5. I got one yesterday I’m pleased I found this thread!

    Mine is from:
    Avery Shen
    Avery@cloudtech.org.cn
    Tel: +86-551-6349-1193
    Fax: +86-551- 6349-1192
    Address:Room 806,Fortune Square,No.278,Suixi Road,Hefei Chin

    The company wanting my domain name is Asiliang International Investment Co

    • Hi All,
      Glad I Googled this I got the following over Christmas, very similar details as to Gemma above.
      Please bait away, if you wish. I don’t have the time to respond……
      Best wishes.

      From: Avery Shen

      Dear Sir/Madam,
      We are a domain registrar. We received application request from Aoure investment company, they apply to register XXXXX as their brand and top-level domain names. we found the main body of those domain names is same as your company name. I confirm with your company about the relationship between you two companies. Please let me know whether or not you authorize them to register those domain names.
      Right now, we don’t pass their registration request. We are confirming it whether or not you authorize them to register those domain names.. looking forward to your reply, thanks.
      Best Regards

      Avery Shen
      Tel: +86-551-6349-1193
      Fax: +86-551- 6349-1192
      Address:Room 806,Fortune Square,No.278,Suixi Road,Hefei China

    • Further to my earlier message above, I just found another in my inbox over Christmas from the same day! See as follows….
      Best wishes again for 2018, Mat.

      From: Ian Liu

      (It’s very urgent, please transfer this email to your CEO. Thanks)

      This email is from China domain name registration center, which mainly deal with the domain name registration in China. On Dec 26, 2017, we received an application from Jialian Ltd requested “XXXXXXXX” as their internet keyword and China (CN) domain names (XXXXXXX.cn, XXXXXXXX.com.cn, XXXXXXXX.net.cn, XXXXXXXX.org.cn). But after checking it, we find this name conflict with your company name or trademark. In order to deal with this matter better, it’s necessary to send email to you and confirm whether your company have connection with this Chinese company or not?

      Best Regards,
      Ian Liu | Service & Operations Manager
      China Registry (Head Office) | 6012, Xingdi Building, No. 1698 Yishan Road, Shanghai 201103, China
      Tel: +86-02164193517 | Fax: +86-02161918697 | Mob: +86-13816428671
      Email: ian@chinaregistry.org.cn
      Web: www . chinaregistry . org . cn

      This email contains privileged and confidential information intended for the addressee only. If you are not the intended recipient, please destroy this email and inform the sender immediately. We appreciate you respecting the confidentiality of this information by not disclosing or using the information in this email.

    • The sender’s email address was from: Ian Liu
      Slightly different to the email address in the email signature, see previous message above.

    • The first email sender’s email address was from: Avery Shen : Shen@cloudtech.org.cn
      Slightly different to the email address in the email signature, see previous message above.

      Apologies, the copy & paste emails addresses did not seem to show after submitting the posts.

  6. Thanks for the post – helped us out too. Had never heard of registering internet keywords to a company which made me search for this as a scam. Ours also came from:

    Thomas Liu | Service & Operations Manager
    China Registry (Head Office) | 6012, Xingdi Building, No. 1698 Yishan Road, Shanghai 201103, China
    Tel: +86-02164193517 | Fax: +86-02161918697 | Mob: +86-13816428671
    Email: thomas@chinaregistry.org.cn
    Web: www . chinaregistry . org . cn

  7. I’m really pleased I found your blog on this. Here is what I received this morning. Pretty similar to the emails already posted.

    Dear CEO,

    (If you are not the person who is in charge of this, please forward this to your CEO, because this is urgent. If this email affects you, we are very sorry, please ignore this email. Thanks)

    We are a Network Service Company which is the domain name registration center in China.
    We received an application from Hua An Ltd on December 4, 2017. They want to register ” btj ” as their Internet Keyword and ” btj .cn “、” btj .com.cn ” 、” btj .net.cn “、” btj .org.cn ” 、” btj .asia ” domain names, they are in China and Asia domain names. But after checking it, we find ” btj ” conflicts with your company. In order to deal with this matter better, so we send you email and confirm whether this company is your distributor or business partner in China or not?

    Best Regards,

    Mike Zhang | Service Manager

    China YG Domain (Head Office)

    8006, Xinlong Building, No. 415 WuBao Road, Shanghai 201105, China

    Tel: +86-2161918696 | Fax: +86-2161918697 | Mob: +86-1582177 1823

    Web: www(dot)chinaygdomain(dot)cn

  8. Glad I found this website,

    Same over here, first was from Daniel Lou, second from Gareth Ning.

    Daniel Liu | Service & Operations Manager
    China Registry (Head Office) | 6012, Xingdi Building, No. 1698 Yishan Road, Shanghai 201103, China
    Tel: +86-02164193517 | Fax: +86-02161918697 | Mob: +86-13816428671
    Email: daniel@chinaregistry.net.cn
    Web: www . chinaregistry . net . cn

    We are waiting for Mr. Daniel Liu’s approval and think these CN domains and internet keyword are very important for our business. Even though Mr. Daniel Liu advised us to change another name, we will persist in this name.

    Kind regards

    Gareth Ning

  9. Seems like the Mr. Liu is a busy man trying to resolve all the conflicts!

    Here one I receive this morning:

    Eric Liu
    Senior Manager

    China Registrar Headquarters

    www . chinaregistrar . org
    8008, Tianan Building, No. 1399 Jinqiao Road,

    Shanghai 200120, China
    0086-21-6191-8696(Tel)
    0086-1377-4400-340( Mobi)
    0086-21-6191-8697(Fax)

  10. Hi

    We had this come in through our email this morning. So glad to have come across this blog.. Thanks

    Dear Manager,

    (Please forward this to your CEO, because this is urgent. Thanks!) This is Harris Liu, Senior Manager of a Network Service Company which is the domain name registration center in Shanghai, China. On December 11, 2017, we received an application from BaiYao Holdings Ltd requested “aheadscreens” as their internet keyword and China (CN) domain names( aheadscreens.cn/ aheadscreens.com.cn/ aheadscreens.net.cn/ aheadscreens.org.cn). But after checking it, we find this name conflict with your company name or trademark. In order to deal with this matter better, it’s necessary to send email to you and confirm whether your company have relations with this Chinese company or not?

    Kind regards

    Harris Liu

    Senior Manager

    NETCHINA Headquarters

    www . netchina . org

    8008, Tianan Building, No. 1399 Jinqiao Road,

    Shanghai 200120, China
    0086-21-6191-8696(Tel)

    0086-1377-4400-340( Mobi)

    0086-21-6191-8697(Fax)

  11. Dear CEO/Manager,

    Please read this letter carefully since this is an urgent case. We are domain registrar and received the registration request from LONGHE Global Ltd applying to register southcoastjobs brand and domain names(cn hk etc). We found those names have same main body as your company’s name. We hereby confirm with your company whether or not your company are affiliated with the applicant. Please let me know your thoughts ASAP so as to let us work this out, Have a nice day.

    Best Regards,
    Sam Chan
    Tel:0086-551 634 911 93
    Fax:0086-551 634 911 92
    Address:No.358,Jiangnan Xinlicheng Garden,Tongcheng Road,Heifei China

  12. Daniel’s brother Kevin!

    Kevin Liu | Service & Operations Manager
    China Registry (Head Office) | 6012, Xingdi Building, No. 1698 Yishan Road, Shanghai 201103, China
    Tel: +86-02164193517 | Fax: +86-02161918697 | Mob: +86-13816428671
    Email: kevin@chinaregistry.com.cn
    Web: www . chinaregistry . com . cn

  13. Wow, prolific family business!! We just heard from Paul Liu!!!! (Can’t wait to send them some money.)

    Thanks for your help Matt!!

    Paul Liu

    (Please forward this to your CEO, because this is urgent. Thanks)

    We are a Network Service Company which is the domain name registration center in Shanghai, China. On Dec 4, 2017, we received an application from Jiahong Ltd requested “orbitalbiosciences” as their internet keyword and China (CN) domain names (orbitalbiosciences.cn, orbitalbiosciences.com.cn, orbitalbiosciences.net.cn, orbitalbiosciences.org.cn). But after checking it, we find this name conflict with your company name or trademark. In order to deal with this matter better, it’s necessary to send email to you and confirm whether your company is affiliated with this Chinese company or not?

    Best Regards,

    Paul Liu | Service & Operations Manager

    China Registry (Head Office) | 6012, Xingdi Building, No. 1698 Yishan Road, Shanghai 201103, China

    Tel: +86-02164193517 | Fax: +86-02161918697 | Mob: +86-13816428671

    Email: paul@chinaregistry.net.cn

    Web: www . chinaregistry . net . cn

  14. Thanks Matt for this website! I am glad I found it and saved me a lot of time.

    I got an email from Farrah Wan and the company applying is PianTan Company.

    Farrah Wan | Service & Operations Manager
    Tel:+0086-5538-366231 || Fax:+0086-5538-366231
    From email: fw@toipc.cn.com

  15. Thanks, this blog has been really helpful. These guys are trying to scam me too. The email from “Garetth Ning” was the giveaway, sent from a gmail account just like the Nigerian 419 scammers. Even using the same names. How lazy is that? Even better, I get a second email from the so-called China Registry from Frank Liu telling me that a different company (Jianing Ltd) filed an application on a different day (Dec 11) for the same domain names – seriously?

    From the good cop:
    (Please forward this to your CEO, because this is urgent. Thanks)
    This email is from China domain name registration center, which mainly deal with the domain name registration in China. On Dec 4, 2017, we received an application from Jiahong Ltd requested “phoenixscientificservices” as their internet keyword and China (CN) domain names (phoenixscientificservices.cn, phoenixscientificservices.com.cn, phoenixscientificservices.net.cn, phoenixscientificservices.org.cn). But after checking it, we find this name conflict with your company name or trademark. In order to deal with this matter better, it’s necessary to send email to you and confirm whether your company have affiliation with this Chinese company or not?
    Best Regards,
    Charles Xu | Service & Operations Manager
    China Registry (Head Office) | 6012, Xingdi Building, No. 1698 Yishan Road, Shanghai 201103, China
    Tel: +86-02164193517 | Fax: +86-02161918697 | Mob: +86-13816428671
    Email: charles@chinaregistry.org.cn
    Web: www . chinaregistry . org . cn

    From the bad cop:
    To whom it concerns,
    We will register the China domain names “phoenixscientificservices.cn” “phoenixscientificservices.com.cn” “phoenixscientificservices.net.cn” “phoenixscientificservices.org.cn” and internet keyword “phoenixscientificservices” and have submitted our application. We are waiting for Mr. Charles Xu’s approval and think these CN domains and internet keyword are very important for our business. Even though Mr. Charles Xu advised us to change another name, we will persist in this name.
    Kind regards
    Gareth Ning

    Charles even sent me an application form and a price list, how nice! Over $2300 for the minimum 10 year period for a bunch of useless domain names I neither want nor need.

  16. Mine is:

    We are an agency engaging in registering brand name and domain names. Today,
    Our center received an application from PienTan Company and they apply to
    register bhomy as their brand name and some top-level domain names(.CN .HK
    etc). We found the main body of domain names is same as your company name. I
    am not sure about the relationship between you and them. Please tell me
    whether or not your company authorizes them to register names.

    We are dealing with the application and we need to confirm whether you have
    authorized them? If you don’t authorize them, please reply me an e-mail.
    Looking forward to your reply.

    Best regards,

    Farrah Wan | Service & Operations Manager

    Tel:+0086-5538-366231 || Fax:+0086-5538-366231

  17. thanks for sharing this. We had the same situation, but one thing is “think” that is scam, and another is having people saying it. In our case they said:

    From: Sam Ni

    This is about the registration of your company name “XXXXX” , please forward it to your companys leader. Thanks!
    Dear Sir or Madam,
    Thanks for reading this letter. This is a letter regarding XXXXX brand and domain names(cn hk etc). We are a Chinese domain registrar and received the registration application from Blazy International Ltd and found the main body of those brand and domain names is same as your company’s name. Therefore, we confirm with your company to verify whether or not you two companies are affiliated. Please reply me ASAP. Thanks for your cooperation.

    Best Regards,
    Sam Ni
    Tel: +86.7395215980 Fax:+86.7395215981
    Address: No. 178, ChangJiang Road Hefei 230000 China

  18. Another one to add to the collection.

    (Letter to the President or Brand Owner, thanks)
    Dear Sir/Madam,
    We are the department of Asian Domain Registration Service in China. I have something to confirm with you. We formally received an application on Dec 15, 2017 that a company which self-styled “VeriyTX Ltd” were applying to register “xxx” as their Brand Name and some domain names through our firm.

    Now we are handling this registration, and after our initial checking, we found the name were similar to your company’s, so we need to check with you whether your company has authorized that company to register these names. If you authorized this, we will finish the registration at once. If you did not authorize, please let us know within 5 workdays, so that we will handle this issue better. After the deadline we will unconditionally finish the registration for “VeriyTX Ltd”. Looking forward to your prompt reply.
    Best regards,
    Harvey Xu
    Tel:0086-551 634 911 93
    Fax:0086-551 634 911 92
    Address:No.358,Jiangnan Xinlicheng Garden,Tongcheng Road,Heifei China

    I went back to them out of curiosity to see what their next move was and got this response:

    Dear Phil

    Thanks for your confirmation. As soon as receiving the application of that company, we checked and found “xxx” is your company’s using name. We are concerned that your name might be affected negatively by their applications, this is why we informed you. Following brand name and domain names are applied by that company:
    Brand name:
    xxx
    Domain names:
    xxx.asia
    xxx.cn
    xxx.com.cn
    xxx.com.hk
    xxx.com.tw
    xxx.hk
    xxx.in
    xxx.net.cn
    xxx.org.cn
    xxx.tw
    You know that the domain names registration is open in the world, that company also has the right to apply for the available domain names. You only have the preferential rights to register them.
    At present, we haven’t passed their application, we need your opinion. If your company consider these names of importance to your company’s business or interest, i suggest that your company register these names first so as to avoid confusion or speculation. Of course, If you don’t think their application will affect your company in the future, you can give up these names so that we can finish registering for them. Please give me your company’s decision as soon as possible.

    Best regards,
    Harvey Xu

  19. It started with this:

    Dear Sir or Madam,

    Sorry to bother you. We are domain registrar and received the registration request from Pnvo Int’l ltd applying to register urbanstreetartprints brand and domain names(cn hk etc). We found those names have same main body as your company’s name. We hereby confirm with your company whether or not your company are affiliated with the applicant. Please let me know your thoughts ASAP so as to let us work this out, Have a nice day.

    Simon Fu
    Tel: +86-551-6349-1193
    Fax: +86-551- 6349-1192
    Address:No. 131, Jinzhai Road, Hefei City, China

    Then after wards received exactly same kind of mail as listed above:
    Thanks for your confirmation. As soon as receiving the application of that company, we checked and found urbanstreetartprints is your company’s using name. We are concerned that your name might be affected negatively by their applications, this is why we informed you. Following brand name and domain names are applied by that company:
    Brand name: xxxxx

    and then a whole list of domain names>

    From beginning was supsicous but called a lawyer specialised in brand names. When he wanted to charge me €110, – (while probably knowing this is just a scam) for some advise and wanted a screenshot of the emails i got even more suspicious. and decided to do my own homework. And after visiting several websites, including this very good one, i’m
    convinced it’s a scam :)

    • In some ways that bothers me more, when companies know that it’s a scam but capitalise on it regardless. I’ve seen a number of reports of people calling their current domain registrar to ask about these emails, and the registrar has advised registering all the Chinese and Asian domain names through them “to prevent the scammers registering them”. We register domains for our customers and, whenever we get enquiries along these lines, we advise them to delete and ignore the email: there’s no benefit to owning a .cn, .com.cn, .asia or similar unless you have business in that part of the world. And as of yet I’ve not encountered anyone who’s had their brand encroached upon by these scammers.

  20. So glad I found this! Seems like no one’s met Byron Xu yet. Allow me to introduce him;) Btw I found this blog by googling the address he attached to his email.

    (Letter to the President or Brand Owner, thanks)

    Dear Sir/Madam,

    We are the department of Asian Domain Registration Service in China. I have something to confirm with you. We formally received an application on Dec 19, 2017 that a company which self-styled “VeriyTX Ltd” were applying to register “maryuhles” as their Brand Name and some domain names through our firm.

    Now we are handling this registration, and after our initial checking, we found the name were similar to your company’s, so we need to check with you whether your company has authorized that company to register these names. If you authorized this, we will finish the registration at once. If you did not authorize, please let us know within 5 workdays, so that we will handle this issue better. After the deadline we will unconditionally finish the registration for “VeriyTX Ltd”. Looking forward to your prompt reply.

    Best regards,

    Byron Xu
    Tel:0086-551 634 911 93
    Fax:0086-551 634 911 92
    Address:No.358,Jiangnan Xinlicheng Garden,Tongcheng Road,Heifei China

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