Chinese Domain Name Registration Scams

In the middle of December 2012 an individual in China calling himself simply “John” attempted to scare me into registering the .asia, .cn, .com.cn, .net.cn and .org.cn versions of my website’s address using a Chinese Domain Name Scam. The individual responsible is almost certainly one Pan Xiaohong of Shanghai, who failed to convince me to purchase a single thing from him.

Chinese Domain Name Scams

Too Long; Didn’t Read?

    1. It’s a scam
    2. Delete it
    3. There’s no need to register these domain names through your usual registrar
    4. If you ask your usual registrar they will probably use FUD (fear uncertainty and doubt) to encourage you to spend money with them as most registrars are not much better than these scammers

The Long Version…

Here’s an email I received before Christmas from info@ygnetworksit.com:

Dear Manager,

(If you are not the person who is in charge of this, please forward this to your CEO,Thanks)

This email is from China domain name registration center, which mainly deal with the domain name registration in China. We received an application from BaoYuan Ltd on December 17, 2012. They want to register ” squelchdesign ” as their internet keyword and China/Asia (CN/ASIA) domain names. But after checking it, we find this name conflicts with your company. In order to deal with this matter better, so we send you email and confirm whether this company is your distributor or business partner in China or not?

Best Regards

John
General Manager
Shanghai Office (Head Office)
3002, Nanhai Building, No. 854 Nandan Road,
Xuhui District, Shanghai 200070, China
Tel: +86 216191 8696
Mobile: +86 1870199 4951
Fax: +86 216191 8697
Web: www.ygnetworkit.com

An odd email; Lots of broken English and things that don’t entirely make sense if you know anything about my company, but then it could be from a legitimate source that simply hasn’t taken the time to find out more about the company. I figured it had to be suspect, but gave them the benefit of the doubt to see where this was heading:

Hello John,

I’m not 100% sure I am understanding your question fully. BaoYuan are in no way associated with Squelch Design, today is the first time I heard the name.

Yes there would be a conflict if they go ahead and register squelchdesign.cn; Squelch Design does not actively operate in China, but is happy to accept custom from all over the world. I believe registering a company in China with the same name would cause brand confusion and erosion and, given that I went to great lengths to find a name that was not already in use, and having invested a great deal of time and money into Search Engine Optimisation, registering a similarly named website would be very poor etiquette. As far as I can tell BaoYuan are in the chemical/packing materials industry, so it strikes me as odd that they would want to register “squelchdesign” as a domain.

Many thanks,
Matt Lowe

Three days later I got a response. Not from John, but from Lin JianFa – supposedly an employee of BaoYuan – yet using the address jianfa.lin@yahoo.cn:

Dear Sirs,

Our company has submitted the “squelchdesign ” as CN/Asia domain name and Internet Keyword, we are waiting for Mr. John’s approval. We think this name is very important for our products in Chinese and Asian market. Even though Mr. John advises us to change another name, we will persist in this name.

Best regards

Lin JianFa

Immediately I smelt a rat, the style of the speech was absolutely identical to John’s, as was the formatting and with similar incorrect usage of punctuation. I’ve seen this before when I baited a Nigerian 419 scammer a few years back. The fact that this employee of the company was using a Yahoo address was just plain wrong. So far they’d set the scene: They’d heavily implied someone was going to take my company name and start using it, creating brand confusion, but they’d not yet presented a way to get money out of me. So, I carried on playing along:

Lin,

I believe that if you persist in using the name squelchdesign.cn you will only confuse my customers and yours, making it more difficult for my customers to find my website. May I ask what services/business your company would be doing with the name?

Many thanks,
Matt Lowe

That was the last I heard from Lin. John, however, did send me more emails:

Dear Matt ,

Based on your company having no relationship with them, we have suggested they should choose another name to avoid this conflict but they insist on this name as CN/Asia domain names (.asia and .cn and .com.cn and .net.cn and .org.cn) and internet keyword on the internet. In our opinion, maybe they do the similar business as your company and register it to promote his company.
According to the domain name registration principle: The domain names and internet keyword which applied based on the international principle are opened to companies as well as individuals. Any companies or individuals have rights to register any domain name and internet keyword which are unregistered. Because your company haven’t registered this name as CN/ASIA domains and internet keyword on the internet, anyone can obtain them by registration. However, in order to avoid this conflict, the trademark or original name owner has priority to make this registration in our audit period. If your company is the original owner of this name and want to register these CN/ASIA domain names (.asia and .cn and .com.cn and .net.cn and .org.cn) and internet keyword to prevent anybody from using them, please inform us. We can send an application form and the price list to you and help you register these within dispute period.

Kind regards

John
General Manager
Shanghai Office (Head Office)
3002, Nanhai Building, No. 854 Nandan Road,
Xuhui District, Shanghai 200070, China
Tel: +86 216191 8696
Mobile: +86 1870199 4951
Fax: +86 216191 8697
Web: www.ygnetworkit.com

Note the good cop/bad cop thing that he has going on with Lin; He’s doing me a favour by telling me they want to encroach on my company’s name.

The guys over at TechRepublic received an incredibly similar email back in 2009. Over at HoaxSlayer other people have reported, pretty much word for word, the exact same emails I have shown here. Even Wikipedia has an article on this scam. But I carried on playing along, curious to see how much he wanted to fleece me for:

Hi John,

How long is the dispute period?

Many thanks,
Matt Lowe

 

Dear Matt ,

The checking time will be over soon, we have not received your reply about the domain name and internet keyword since our last communication. You must know domain name takes open registration, this is international domain name registration principle. So the company has right to register them. As a domain name registrar, we have no right to refuse their application. We aslo suggest this company should change another name but they stick to this name so if your company want to prevent anybody from using these domains, the only way is to register these CN/ASIA domains and internet keyword. In our checking time, your company has first priority to register them. Could you tell us whether your company want to make this application to prevent anybody from using them or not?

Best Regards

John

 

Hi John,

Thanks for the reply. How much would it cost?

Many thanks,
Matt Lowe

And now, the moment of truth:

Dear Matt:

Thanks for your reply. If you would like to protect by yourself and according to our checking progress,
we will send an application blank to you. After you fill in it, you need to send it back to us. When we
received you information we will overrule their application and register for you in one day. And the
registration fee for CN domain is 38.8 USD year, ASIA domain is 36.6 USD per year, internet keyword
is 148 USD per year. If you want to protect yourself, I am very glad to help you. Right now, the checking
is going to the end, please reply in two working days.

Have a nice day .

Best Regards

John

So back in his first email he suggested BaoYuan wanted to register squelchdesign.asia, squelchdesign.cn, squelchdesign.com.cn, squelchdesign.net.cn, squelchdesign.org.cn, and the internet keyword “squelchdesign”. That’s one .asia, four .cn domains, and one Internet keyword. That comes to a total of $339.80 USD or approximately £214. Update 2017: See below, it gets worse!

The moral of the story is if you get an email from China (or anywhere else for that matter) warning you that someone is trying to muscle in on your business’s name, be very careful. Very very careful indeed. Here’s the registration details for the scammer’s company:

pan xiaohong
lichenfang@zjedu.org
tel: 13661529704
fax: 02162961557
shanghaixingqunandanlu
shanghai,shanghai,CN
200010

I’m 99% sure that “John” is a fictitious character and that Pan Xiaohong is in fact the perpetrator. So maybe if you get an email from this John character, maybe try replying with “Hi Pan”, and see what happens? ;) Take care of your businesses guys.


Update 28/08/2013

The comments section below is getting pretty long as more and more people find this blog and send in the emails they received. As such I’m going to try and summarise the information in the comments below.

You might get emails from any of the following companies: YIGUAN, YIGUDNS, YIGUTEK, YGITECH or the domain names www.ygnetworkit.com, www.yiguannetwork.com, www.yigudns.com, www.yigutek.com, www.ygitech.com, www.cnygregistry.net, www.ygregistryltd.net, www.ygasia.org, www.ygcompany.org, pxisp.net or des-registry.org.
They might use one of the following names: John, Jim, Terry Tang, Peter Cheng, James Zhang, Simon Cheng, Gary Zhang, Mika Cao, Lan Du, Lex Ren, Jim Ying, Bill Cheng, Mark Wong or Abby Wang.
They might claim that the company attempting to register the domain is: BaoYuan Ltd, Weisheng company, Weisheng Holdings Ltd, Taisheng Limited, PengCheng Trading Co. Ltd, Huasheng Ltd, Huafeng Ltd or Kenpoco Ltd. Note that some, perhaps even all, of these companies are legitimate Asian companies and the scammers are simply using their names to try and give credibility to their claims.
You might be contacted by someone claiming to be from one of the companies above, usually using a Yahoo or Hotmail email address rather than a legitimate business address: Lin JianFa, Warren Chiou, Darren Chiou or Jiang Zhifa.

If you received an email with slightly different wording or from a different company then please feel free to post it in the comments section below so I can update the blog and we can all stay one step ahead of the scam.


Update 06/10/2017

After I posted this blog I never received any more of these scam emails, probably because my website was coming up in first place in Google for any searches related to “Chinese domain name scams”. I even tried replying on behalf of a few customers who’d received scam emails to see if I could further mess with the scammers, but I guess they did their homework because none of them would reply to me. Until the 19th of September that is, when “Charles Xu” contacted me.

(It’s very urgent, please transfer this email to your CEO. Thanks)

We are the domain registration and solution center in China. On Sep 18, 2017, we received an application from Jiatai Ltd requested “squelchdesign” as their internet keyword and China (CN) domain names (squelchdesign.cn, squelchdesign.com.cn, squelchdesign.net.cn, squelchdesign.org.cn). But after checking it, we find this name conflict with your company name or trademark. In order to deal with this matter better, it’s necessary to send email to you and confirm whether this company is your business partner in China?

How could I resist playing their game? It’s been 4 years since I was last contacted and asked to pay the ridiculous sum of £214 for domains I neither wanted nor needed. What would this scam look like in 2017?

Hi Charles,

We have no business dealings with Jiatai Ltd and any registration of a name featuring “squelchdesign” would be an infringement of our trading name.

Charles Good-Cop Xu had set the scene and had a bite. Now it was time for Gareth Bad-Cop Ren to do his part:

To whom it concerns,

We will register the China domain names “squelchdesign.cn” “squelchdesign.com.cn” “squelchdesign.net.cn” “squelchdesign.org.cn” and internet keyword “squelchdesign” and have submitted our application. We are waiting for Mr. Charles Xu’s approval and think these CN domains and internet keyword are very important for our business. Even though Mr. Charles Xu advised us to change another name, we will persist in this name.

Kind regards

Gareth Ren

Oh dear, that sounds terrible. I’d better play the worried webmaster part then:

Hello Gareth,

Registration of any domain name or Internet keywords containing “squelchdesign” would clearly water down our brand and would only cause confusion in the marketplace. We ask that you not make any such registration and instead create your own unique name.

Time once again for the good cop routine. Thank goodness Charles Xu was there to save the day.

Dear Matt Lowe,

We have already advised them to choose another name according to your company that have no relationship with them, but they insist on this name as China domain names (squelchdesign.cn, squelchdesign.com.cn, squelchdesign.net.cn, squelchdesign.org.cn) and internet keyword. In our opinion, maybe they do the similar business as your company then register it to promote his company.

As is known to all, domain name registration based on the international principle is opened to company and individual. Any company or individual have the right to register any domain name and internet keyword which are unregistered. Your company haven’t registered this name as China domains and internet keyword, so anyone is able to obtain them by registration. But in order to avoid this conflict, the trademark or original name owner have priority to register China domain name and internet keyword during our dispute period. If your company is the original owner of this name and want to register these China domain names (squelchdesign.cn, squelchdesign.com.cn, squelchdesign.net.cn, squelchdesign.org.cn) and internet keyword to prevent anybody from using them, please inform us. We can send you an application form with price list to help your company register these China domains and internet keyword during our dispute period.

And now I just need to play my final part to get to the end-game, finding out their exorbitant prices:

Hi Charles,

We are indeed the original name owner and cannot have anyone infringing on our name. Please send over the application form.

And what a nice chap, he sent me his price list.

So to register all of the names and keywords that “Charles” suggests would set us back USD $1,476 which is roughly equivalent to £1,124 for registrations that we in no way need. This scam is getting more vicious, the total amount they want to rip people off by has grown from £214 to £1,124 – nearly a thousand pounds in 4 short years…

Don’t fall prey to these scammers! Delete and forget their emails, don’t pay them a penny.


Update 13/10/2017

They’re busy at the moment, I’ve had another one! This time from “TOI IT Service Center”, China Registry (Head Office) || No. 8-8018, Peace Building, Jinghu District, Wuhu City, China. Tel: 0086 5538 366231 || Fax: 0086 5538 366231.

Dear Sir/Madam

About the “squelchdesign”, we have some thing to comfirm with you! We are an agency engaging in registering brand name and domain names, on October 11, 2017, we received an application named “Derlery Company” and they apply to register squelchdesign as their brand name and some top-level asian domain names. But we found the main body of domain names is same as yours. We are not sure about the relationship between you and them.

As the registrar, so we need to check with you whether your company has authorized that company to register these names. If you authorized this, we would finish the registration at once. If you did not authorize, please let us know within 7 workdays. After the deadline we will unconditionally finish the registration for “Derlery Company” Looking forward to your prompt reply.

(Please kindly foward this email to your CEO or appropriate person. Thanks a lot.)

Best Regards,

Owen Chen

Senior Adviser Manager

 

Hello Owen,

We have no dealings with Derlery Company and any attempt to register our trading name in China would have a considerable negative impact on our brand.

 

Dear Matt Lowe,

Thanks for your confirmation. As soon as receiving the application of “Derlery Company”, we checked and found “squelchdesign” is your company’s using name and brand. We are concerned that your brand name might be affected negatively by their applications, this is why we informed you. Following Network Brand and domain names are applied by “Derlery Company”:
Net Brand: squelchdesign
Domain Names:
“squelchdesign.cn
squelchdesign.com.cn
squelchdesign.net.cn
squelchdesign.org.cn
squelchdesign.cn.com
squelchdesign.asia
squelchdesign.in
squelchdesign.co.in
squelchdesign.hk
squelchdesign.com.hk
squelchdesign.tw
squelchdesign.com.tw
squelchdesign.中国

You know that the domain names registration is open in the world, “Derlery Company” also has the right to apply for the available domain names, but you have the preferential rights to register them. We also are not very clear about why the company wants to register these domain names, but according to our work experience, if they finish the registration, in internet, your customers must be confused and this registration will bring lots of competition to your company to impact your business soon.

At present, we haven’t passed their application, we need your opinion. If your company consider these names of importance to your company’s business and interest, I suggest your company to register these names first so as to avoid confusion or speculation. Of course, If you don’t want to protect your intellectual property rights, then you can give up these names so that we can finish registering for them as per our duty. Please give me your company’s decision as soon as possible in order to handle this issue better.

Have a nice day.
Best Regards,

Owen Chen
Senior Adviser Manager

 

Hi Owen,

Thanks for informing me, I wouldn’t want my customers being confused by this registration. How do I go about registering these domain names?

 

Dear Matt Lowe,

Thanks for your confirmation, Of course, I can assure you that the best way for you to protect your business is to register these domains under your name, because after you finish the registration, you will become the exclusive owner of them! We, as the China local registrar, if you need to register those domains, we can help you.
Following is the procedure, you can do follow these:
1.You fill in the Registration Contract it via email(scanned) or fax.
2.We will send the Invoice signed & stamped to you, In the meantime We will formally submit the application to register for you and put on records according to you signed Registration Contract.
3.You transfer the payment to us according to the Bank information on the Invoice within 5 workdays and fax the payment proof to us.
4.You will be awarded the certificates of Domains after 10 workdays.

Attached the Registration Contract, pls check. About the detailed price, pls refer to the contract.
If no question, please fill the contract and return to us ASAP, we will help you register these domain names as per the information which you will fill in the contract,thanks for your cooperation.

Have a nice day.
Best Regards,

Owen Chen
Senior Adviser Manager

 

And the moment of truth:

That works out at a minimum cost of €3,315 … or about £2,980.

Jan 2013: £214 requested
Sept 2017: £1,124 requested
Oct 2017: £2,980 requested

Ignore, delete, and keep your money in your bank where it belongs.

About Matt Lowe

Matt Lowe is a WordPress web designer / developer based in Newbury, Berkshire. After 8 years of doing the nine-to-five for other companies and watching them make the same mistakes over and over he set out in business on his own, forming Squelch Design to help businesses get online and make money.

1,301 comments on “Chinese Domain Name Registration Scams

  1. Glad I found this website, these mails confused me because I’ve been to China and think it might be possible to do business there in the future.
    Same structure:

    To whom it concerns,

    We will register the China domain names “niagara.cn” “niagara.com.cn” “niagara.net.cn” “niagara.org.cn” and internet keyword “niagara” and have submitted our application. We are waiting for Mr. Nick Liu’s approval and think these CN domains and internet keyword are very important for our business. Even though Mr. Nick Liu advised us to change another name, we will persist in this name.

    Kind regards

    Gareth Ning

    Dear Harriet van den Bosch,

    Attached please find this application form. You can find the price from this form. If your company want to register these CN domain names and internet keyword, please fill out this form and send it back with the copy of company’s business registration license within 5 working days.

    Best Regards,
    Nick Liu | Service & Operations Manager
    CN Registry (Head Office) | 6012, Xingdi Building, No. 1698 Yishan Road, Shanghai 201103, China

    Tel: +86-02164193517 | Fax: +86-02161918697 | Mob: +86-13816428671

    Email: nick@cnregistry.org.cn
    Web: www . cnregistry . org . cn

  2. Oh, look. ANOTHER one! Spreading a little holiday scam cheer.

    (It’s very urgent, please transfer this email to your CEO. Thanks)

    We are a Network Service Company which is the domain name registration center in Shanghai, China. On Dec 18, 2017, we received an application from Jianing Ltd requested “rtqe” as their internet keyword and China (CN) domain names (rtqe.cn, rtqe.com.cn, rtqe.net.cn, rtqe.org.cn). But after checking it, we find this name conflict with your company name or trademark. In order to deal with this matter better, it’s necessary to send email to you and confirm whether this company is your distributor in China?

    Best Regards,

    Jeff Zhang | Service & Operations Manager

    China Registry (Head Office) | 6012, Xingdi Building, No. 1698 Yishan Road, Shanghai 201103, China

    Tel: +86-02164193517 | Fax: +86-02161918697 | Mob: +86-13816428671

    Email: jeff@chinaregistry.net.cn

    Web: www . chinaregistry . net . cn

    This email contains privileged and confidential information intended for the addressee only. If you are not the intended recipient, please destroy this email and inform the sender immediately. We appreciate you respecting the confidentiality of this information by not disclosing or using the information in this email.

  3. Similar situation with my business in the last week. Calls himself Byron Xu.

    Byron Xu
    Tel: +86-551-6349-1193
    Fax: +86-551-6349-1192
    Address:No. 131, Jinzhai Road, Hefei City, China
    Byron@pxco-certificate.cn

    Claiming that VeriyTX Ltd a Hongkong company is trying to register my business names in China.

    • I got a similar letter from his brother Osborn Xu.

      (Letter to the President or Brand Owner, thanks)
      Dear Sir/Madam,
      We are the department of Asian Domain Registration Service in China. I have something to confirm with you. We formally received an application on Jan 6, 2018 that a company which self-styled “VeriyTX Ltd” were applying to register “(my company’s name)” as their Brand Name and some domain names through our firm.
      Now we are handling this registration, and after our initial checking, we found the name were similar to your company’s, so we need to check with you whether your company has authorized that company to register these names. If you authorized this, we will finish the registration at once. If you did not authorize, please let us know within 5 workdays, so that we will handle this issue better. After the deadline we will unconditionally finish the registration for “VeriyTX Ltd”. Looking forward to your prompt reply.

      Best regards,

      Osborn Xu
      Tel: +86-551-6349-1193
      Fax: +86-551-6349-1192
      Address:No. 131, Jinzhai Road, Hefei City, China

    • We got the EXACT same email with the EXACT same company and person names.

      (Letter to the President or Brand Owner, thanks)
      Dear Sir/Madam,
      We are the department of Asian Domain Registration Service in China. I have something to confirm with you. We formally received an application on Jan 6, 2018 that a company which self-styled “VeriyTX Ltd” were applying to register “texasdepos” as their Brand Name and some domain names through our firm.
      Now we are handling this registration, and after our initial checking, we found the name were similar to your company’s, so we need to check with you whether your company has authorized that company to register these names. If you authorized this, we will finish the registration at once. If you did not authorize, please let us know within 5 workdays, so that we will handle this issue better. After the deadline we will unconditionally finish the registration for “VeriyTX Ltd”. Looking forward to your prompt reply.
      Best regards,
      Osborn Xu
      Tel: +86-551-6349-1193
      Fax: +86-551-6349-1192
      Address:No. 131, Jinzhai Road, Hefei City, China

    • And in Perth Australia, exact copy of above but with my company name.
      Had me thinking for a bit, but this solves it.
      Thanks for the blog Matt

  4. LOL! so fake and lame.

    Just recieve this from “Brian Tan”

    Dear Sir/Madam,

    Thanks for checking this email. We are a service agency for registering domain names. Today our center received an application from Chanie Financial Limited, they applied for the registration of modernprollc as their Brand Name and several top-level domain names. But we found the main body of domain names is same as your company name. We are not sure about the relationship between you and this company.

    Now, we are processing this application. Our center needs to confirm whether this company is authorized by your company. If so, we will continue the next step of registration. If not, please let me know as soon as possible in order that we can deal with this problem timely. Thank you for your time.

    Regards,

    Brian Tan
    Tel: 0086-551 634 911 93
    Fax: 0086-551 634 911 92
    No.358,Jiangnan Xinlicheng Garden,Tongcheng Road,Heifei China

  5. Thanks heaps for posting just got this same scam this week.
    was pretty sure it was dodgy but now im very sure.
    waiting for the price from them now!
    If you are ever in Australia i will buy you that e-beer in person.

  6. It’a annoying these scammers have been at it for so long. I guess the Chinese authorities are too busy firewalling out the rest of the world to turn their attention to these criminals. I won’t bore you with another sample, but it would be nice for these domains/URLs to be blacklisted. Here are the ones I detected so far (various registrars, registrants:

    chinaregistry-gh.com
    chinaregistry-gh.com.cn
    chinaregistry-gp.com
    chinaregistry-gp.com.cn
    chinaregistry-sh.com.cn
    chinaregistry-sl.com
    chinaregistry-sv.com.cn
    chinaregistry-sx.com.cn
    chinaregistry-sy.com
    chinaregistry.com.cn
    chinaregistry.org.cn
    chinaregistryltd.org
    chinaygdomain.cn
    chinaygdomain.com.cn
    chinaygdomain.org.cn
    cnregistry.com.cn

  7. Sigh. More domains they own (not all of them may be alive)

    chinaregistrar.org
    chinaregistry-ga.com
    chinaregistry-gb.com
    chinaregistry-gd.com
    chinaregistry-gk.com
    chinaregistry-gk.net.cn
    chinaregistry-sh.net.cn
    chinaregistry-sj.com
    chinaregistry-sj.net.cn
    chinaregistry-su.com
    chinaregistry-sv.net.cn
    chinaregistry-sx.net.cn
    chinaregistry.net.cn
    cnregistry-sh.org
    cnregistry-sh.org.cn
    cnregistry-sj.com
    cnregistry-sj.org.cn
    cnregistry.org
    cnregistry.org.cn
    cnygdns.com
    cnygdns.org
    cnygdns.top

  8. Hi Matt,

    Your article saved me also. Thank you very much. The same e-mails came to me. I replied only to one. The name of the service manager was Mike Zhang and the “company” intented to buy the domain names was Hua An Ltd.

  9. Thank you for posting about this scam. The variation I received today is from Alina Lee I have substituted asterisks for our website details.

    Dear Sir,
    The ****** name registration is concerned with your company name,please check it prudently.

    This is a letter regarding ****** brand and some ****** based domain names. We are a Chinese domain registrar. Recently we received the registration application from Shenzhen REN Co. Limited, they want to register the ******** brand and some domain names. Firstly, we want to confirm if the company is your company’s cooperative partner. Secondly, we need to verify whether you have allowed the company to apply these names.
    Looking forward to your reply
    Best Regards,

    Alina Lee
    General Manager of Registration department
    Address:No. 178 ChangJiang Road,Hefei 230000,China
    Tel: (+86) 0739 5215 980
    Fax:(+86) 0739 5215 980

  10. Thank you for taking the time to write this,

    (Letter to the President or Brand Owner, thanks)
    Dear Sir/Madam,
    We are the department of Asian Domain Registration Service in China. I have something to confirm with you. We formally received an application on Jan 8, 2018 that a company which self-styled “VeriyTX Ltd” were applying to register “tenxv” as their Brand Name and some domain names through our firm.
    …….
    Best regards,

    Osborn Xu
    Tel: +86-551-6349-1193
    Fax: +86-551-6349-1192
    Address:No. 131, Jinzhai Road, Hefei City, China

  11. From one Elvis Huang :
    “Dear Sir/Madam,
    We are a domain registrar. We received application request from …”

    Has anyone tried replying, “sure, let them go ahead and register…?”

  12. It’s a week since Jones Wu, claiming to be from a registry called TopW, contacted us. I was doubtful and cross checked with our web hosting business which handles our registration renewals etc (that was helpful in two ways – see below). So, I replied to Mr Wu asking for a price list of domain names etc offered. This came to about €500 /year (I had not spotted at that point that they wanted a multi-year commitment). So, for the last few days, I have been stringing him along and will draw this out for a good few days more (asking for more information and whether he has any other useful things to offer etc). He’s getting a bit desperate and more urgency is coming into the messages.

    Then I decided this morning to run a search and found all your experiences – very helpful and I am pleased to add to them. Happy teasing of Chinese man!

    The good news is that my supplier confirmed my opinion that the prices were way out of order compared to the ones we have already. He reviewed our current registration list, said that it was reasonably complete and just suggested that we might add .uk (we had .co.uk already) for about £10 including VAT.

  13. Thank you for this post. I have also received a similar email last month (substituted my brand name with *** for protection):

    Dear President or CEO,

    Please read this letter carefully since this is an urgent case. We are a Chinese domain registrar. Recently, we received the registration request from CHUAG Global Ltd applying to register *** brand and domain names(cn hk etc), which have same main body as your company’s name. We send this letter to confirm with your company whether or not you authorize them to register those names. Please give me your thoughts ASAP so as to let us carry on, Thanks.
    Best Regards,
    David Lee
    Tel:+86-551-6349-1193
    Fax:+86-551-6349-1192
    Address:No. 131, Jinzhai Road, Hefei City, China

    After that, I unknowingly received this email, which I later found out it ended up in spam box:

    Dear Daniel,

    Thanks for your letter. Following domains and brand name are applied by that company:
    Brand Name:
    ***
    Domain Names:
    ***.asia
    ***.in
    ***.co.in
    ***.cn
    ***.com.cn
    ***.net.cn
    ***.org.cn
    ***.tw
    ***.com.tw
    ***.hk
    ***.com.hk
    You shall know that the domain names registration is open-wide, so that company also has the right to apply for those available domain names. In accordance with dispute domain registration principle,your company has the preferential rights to register them and that is why we informed you this case in advance.
    At present, we haven’t passed their application because we need your opinion. If your company considers these names are of importance to your business or interest, I suggest that your company registers these names in prior so as to avoid confusion or speculation. Of course, If you don’t think their application would affect your company in the future, then my suggestion is that you can give up these names and let us finish the registration for them as our duty performs. Please give me your company’s decision as soon as possible in order to let us handle this issue properly.

    Best Regards,
    David Lee

    Here is the most recent email I got:

    Notice: Hi, I am David Lee. We had discussed the case about disputing your company’s domain names and Brand Name. You have never registered these domain names and Brand Name, and I had told you that the domain name registration is open. The dispute period will expire soon. If your company does not register these domain names and Brand Name, we will finish aforesaid company registration within 2 workdays. that company will become the legal owner of these domain names in the world. We had notified you, so we are not responsible for any dispute question about your intellectual property right and trademark after they succeed in registration. If you have any questions, pls contact us within 2 workdays.

    Best Regards,
    David Lee

  14. Thank you for this blog!
    I got the similar email:

    From: tony.wang@cnygdns.org.cn [mailto:tony.wang@cnygdns.org.cn] On Behalf Of Mike Zhang
    Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2018 10:19 AM
    To: info@***
    Subject: “***”

    Dear CEO,
    (If you are not the person who is in charge of this, please forward this to your CEO, because this is urgent. If this email affects you, we are very sorry, please ignore this email. Thanks)
    We are a Network Service Company which is the domain name registration center in China.
    We received an application from Hua An Ltd on January 8, 2018. They want to register ” *** ” as their Internet Keyword and “***.cn “、” *** .com.cn ” 、” *** .net.cn “、” *** .org.cn ” 、” *** .asia ” domain names, they are in China and Asia domain names. But after checking it, we find ” *** ” conflicts with your company. In order to deal with this matter better, so we send you email and confirm whether this company is your distributor or business partner in China or not?

    Best Regards,
    Mike Zhang | Service Manager
    Cn YG Domain (Head Office)
    8006, Xinlong Building, No. 415 WuBao Road, Shanghai 201105, China
    Tel: +86-2161918696 | Fax: +86-2161918697 | Mob: +86-1582177 1823
    Web: www . cnygdomain . cn

    I sent answer. Shortly: we have no any relationships with Hua An Ltd.
    3 days later, I got:

    Dear Alex ***,

    Based on your company having no relationship with them, we have suggested they should choose another name to avoid this conflict but they insist on this name as CN/ASIA domain names (***.asia , ***.cn, ***.com.cn, ***.net.cn, ***.org.cn) and internet keyword (***) on the internet. In our opinion, maybe they do the similar business as your company and register it to promote his company.
    According to the domain name registration principle: The domain names and internet keyword which applied based on the international principle are opened to companies as well as individuals. Any companies or individuals have rights to register any domain name and internet keyword which are unregistered.
    Because your company haven’t registered this name as CN/ASIA domains and internet keyword on the internet, anyone can obtain them by registration. However, in order to avoid this conflict, the trademark or original name owner has priority to make this registration in our audit period. If your company is the original owner of this name and want to register these CN/ASIA domain names (***.asia, ***.cn, ***.com.cn, ***.net.cn, ***.org.cn) and internet keyword (***) to prevent anybody from using them, please inform us. We can send an application form with price list to you and help you register these within dispute period. Look forward to your kind reply!

    Kind regards
    Mike Zhang | Service Manager
    Cn YG Domain (Head Office)

    8006, Xinlong Building, No. 415 WuBao Road, Shanghai 201105, China
    Tel: +86-2161918696 | Fax: +86-2161918697 | Mob: +86-1582177 1823
    Web: www . cnygdomain . com

  15. The next one:

    …We received an application from Huadu Ltd on January 22, 2018. They want to register …… domain names, they are in China and Asia domain names. But after checking it, we find … conflicts with your company. In order to deal with this matter better, so we send you email and confirm whether this company is your distributor or business partner in China or not?

    Jim | Service Manager
    Chinese Registry (Head Office)
    8006, Xinlong Building, No. 415 WuBao Road, Shanghai 201105, China
    Tel: +86-2161918696 | Fax: +86-2161918697 | Mob: +86-1582177 1823
    Web: www . chineseregistry . com

  16. Another one for you. Thank you for the blog. It was very helpful. Here are the key details of the mail I received.

    We are domain registrar and received the registration request from Mailroom Int’l Limited applying to register ………………………………………

    Friend Hu
    Tel:0086-551 634 911 93
    Fax:0086-551 634 911 92
    Address:No.358,Jiangnan Xinlicheng Garden,Tongcheng Road,Heifei China

  17. Thank you for this post. Two days ago I received a similar email !
    This is the whole correspondence of our company!
    Be careful.
    —————————————————————————————————————————————————————————————————————————————————————————————-

    From: Mike Zhang
    Add contact Submitter : john.gong@chinaygdns.cn
    To: info@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.com
    Add a contact Reply mike.zhang@chinaygdomain.cn
    Date Thu 11:14
    Priority Norm.

    Dear CEO,

    (If you are not the person who is in charge of this, please forward this to your CEO, because this is urgent. If this email affects you, we are very sorry, please ignore this email. Thanks)

    We are a Network Service Company which is the domain name registration center in China.
    We received an application from Hua An Ltd on January 22, 2018. They want to register ” sensitivesound ” as their Internet Keyword and ” sensitivesound .cn “、” sensitivesound .com.cn ” 、” sensitivesound .net.cn “、” sensitivesound .org.cn ” 、” sensitivesound .asia ” domain names, they are in China and Asia domain names. But after checking it, we find ” sensitivesound ” conflicts with your company. In order to deal with this matter better, so we send you email and confirm whether this company is your distributor or business partner in China or not?

    Best Regards,

    Mike Zhang | Service Manager

    China YG Domain (Head Office)

    8006, Xinlong Building, No. 415 WuBao Road, Shanghai 201105, China

    Tel: +86-2161918696 | Fax: +86-2161918697 | Mob: +86-1582177 1823

    Web: www . chinaygdomain . cn

    —————————————————————————————————————————————————————————————————————————————————————————————-

    ANSWER.

    Dear MIKE ZHANG.

    Thanks for the questions, are happy to try this for you!
    I’m the CEO of Sensitive Sound
    Lebedev Roman Pavlovich

    This company is not a distributor or business partner in China!

    In accordance with these documents,
    I am the owner of a trademark,Sensitive Sound.

    And I am the owner of domain names on the Internet Sensitive Sound.

    We also joined Alibaba.com in 2008 as a business manufacturer.
    Our company has a business partner in the USA.

    Thank you and all the best,
    CEO .

    —————————————————————————————————————————————————————————————————————————————————————————————-

    LETTER

    From lin-jianfeng@vip.163.com
    Add a contact To info@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.com
    Add a contact
    Date Fri 07:59
    Priority Norm.

    Dear Sirs,

    Our company based in chinese office, our company has submitted the ” sensitivesound ” as CN/ASIA(.asia/.cn/.com.cn/.net.cn/.org.cn) domain name and Internet Keyword, we are waiting for Mr. Jim’s approval. We think these names are very important for our business in Chinese and Asia market. Even though Mr. Jim advises us to change another name, we will persist in this name.

    Best regards

    Lin jianfeng

    —————————————————————————————————————————————————————————————————————————————————————————————-

    ANSWER.

    Dear Lin Jianfeng,

    I’m the CEO of Sensitive Sound.
    Lebedev Roman Pavlovich.

    In accordance with these documents,
    I own a brand of Sensitive Sound.
    And I own the domain names (.asia /. cn / .com /. net./.ru ).
    On the Internet “Sensitive Sound”.

    My trademark is well known abroad.
    Sensitive Sound is known all over the world.

    I have experience in this situation in 2015, one company from China had to pay a huge fine. According to the court decision, the highest level of Zhejiang province
    We advise you to change another name.

    We also joined Alibaba.com, Aliexpress.com in 2008 as a business manufacturer.
    Our company has a business partner in the USA.

    Thank you and all the best,
    General Director Roman Lebedev.

  18. Dear Matt,

    You are a lifesaver. After receiving the e-mail, i did a search based on the company name, and your blog post popped first. Thank you for writing it and shedding some light on this matter.

    From: Mike

    Dear CEO,

    (If you are not the person who is in charge of this, please forward this to your CEO, because this is urgent. If this email affects you, we are very sorry, please ignore this email. Thanks)

    We are a Network Service Company which is the domain name registration center in China.
    We received an application from Hua An Ltd on January 29, 2018. They want to register ” clujshorts ” as their Internet Keyword and ” clujshorts .cn “、” clujshorts .com.cn ” 、” clujshorts .net.cn “、” clujshorts .org.cn ” 、” clujshorts .asia ” domain names, they are in China and Asia domain names. But after checking it, we find ” clujshorts ” conflicts with your company. In order to deal with this matter better, so we send you email and confirm whether this company is your distributor or business partner in China or not?

    Best Regards,
    Mike | Service Manager

    Cn YG Domain (Head Office)

    8006, Xinlong Building, No. 415 WuBao Road, Shanghai 201105, China

    Tel: +86-2161918696 | Fax: +86-2161918697 | Mob: +86-1582177 1823

    Web: www . cnygdomain . cn

  19. MATT LOWE, PLEASE READ!!

    Sorry, I HAD to post here because mine is slightly different. It looks “official” because it seems to have come from “China Intellectual Property Office” Themselves!!! Not a 3rd party as all of yours have in this article/comments. Here is a copy of the email received…

    (Please forward this to your CEO or President, formal reply us the following issue within 7 workdays. Because this is urgent. Thanks)

    Dear President & CEO,

    This email is from China Intellectual Property Office, which mainly deal with International Trademark and Domain Name etc. Here we have something to confirm with you. Today, we received a formal application. A company named “HarleyTo Investment Co.,Ltd” was applying to register ” goldenstarauto ” as its international trademark and some domain names(.asia/.cn/.com.cn/.hk/.com.hk/.tw).

    After our audit work, We found that the name is your company’s registered name, and you are using the name. This registration will determine the ownership of the trademark internationally. If HarleyTo Investment Co.,Ltd successfully registers the international trademark, you will not be able to use the trademark internationally. So we need to check with you whether your company has authorized “HarleyTo Investment Co.,Ltd” to register the International Trademark and those Domain Name. If you authorized this, we will finish the registration as per our duty. If you did not authorize. Please contact us by telephone or email within 7 workdays, so that we will handle this issue better. After the deadline we will unconditionally finish the registration for “HarleyTo Investment Co.,Ltd”. Looking forward to your prompt reply. Thanks for your cooperation.

    All the best wishes for you!

    Jason Ren
    International Department/Manager
    China Intellectual Property Office
    Add:3/F,1st Building ZongFu Street No.47
    Jinjiang District, ChengDu, China.
    Post Code: 610000
    Tel: +86 2887775008
    Fax: +86 2862465008
    Web: www . cniprr . com

    So they’re getting more and more slick…I think I am going to play their game to see how much $$ they are trying to extort? I have a different plan…Once they tell me which domains (not listed in their original email) and keywords they ‘suggest’ that I secure, I am going to tell them that I have a Dot Com firm here in the states that will secure all sites per his recommendation. To see what he says.

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